Ancient Christian Witness

Alot of people who believe in Once saved Always saved and P.O.T.S. will use these scriptures as proof texts that a person can't loose their salvation. Well, before jumping into the text I think one must first ask the question. Is the "drawing" of the Father a "static" one time drawing or an organic continual Drawing?








john 6:36-37"36

"But I said to you that you have seen Me, and yet do not believe. 37"All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out."



The word "gives" is a "present active indicative" of didomi, So it is a continual giving to the Son. One could argue that the giving was done in Eternity where time is not present. However, in time and space Whoever the Father continually gives to the Son will in a future time continually "come" to the Son, and the person that continually comes to the Son will not be cast out by Him.



John 6:43-44

"43Jesus answered and said to them, "Do not grumble among yourselves. 44"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day."



No one can "continually" come to Jesus unless the Father continually draws them to Christ. And Jesus will raise that person up on the last day.



John 6:64-66

"64"But there are some of you who do not believe " For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who it was that would betray Him. 65And He was saying, "For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father."66As a result of this many of His disciples withdrew and were not walking with Him anymore."


This is a Perfect Passive Participle of didomi so this was a one time event in the past. And as you can see in verse 64 Jesus foreknew which ones who would not "continually" believe and who would eventually betray Him. We tend to forget that God has perfect knowledge. God is Omniscient! He is all knowing!

No one can continually come to Jesus unless it has been granted by the Father before the foundation of the World.

We know in John chapter 15 that it is the Father who "takes away" those who do not bear fruit in Christ.

John chapter 15

"1"I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2"Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit."

Thus this is what happened in John chapter 6. It is my belief that scripture shows us that whenever we have the light we "must" embrace the light if we are to get out of Darkness, grow in grace, and remain being drawn by the Father.


We see in John 5:35 that some embraced a prevenient light


31"If I testify about myself, my testimony is not valid. 32There is another who testifies in my favor, and I know that his testimony about me is valid. 33"You have sent to John and he has testified to the truth. 34Not that I accept human testimony; but I mention it that you may be saved. 35John was a lamp that burned and gave light, and you chose for a time to enjoy his light".

They were able to enjoy the Light of John the Baptist.


In John chapter 12 we see Jesus refusing to argue with some of the people who resisted the words He shared. Instead, he just told them to believe while you still have the chance.

John chapter 12

"35Then Jesus told them, "You are going to have the light just a little while longer. Walk while you have the light, before darkness overtakes you. The man who walks in the dark does not know where he is going. 36Put your trust in the light while you have it, so that you may become sons of light."

When he had finished speaking, Jesus left and hid himself from them."The same was true in John chapter 6. Many including the 70 resisted the words of Jesus! When we resist the Light we are in danger of no longer being Drawn by the Father.

We must keep believing whatever Jesus says for this is how we know we are being drawn by the Father.
Will we be one of the called? You know, those who only believe for a season? Or will we be one of the chosen? Those who continually believe for eternity and will show up at the wedding with their wedding clothes on?
Only the Father knows the answer to that question.

Romans chapter 8

"29For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren;"


It is our responsibility to watch our life and doctrine closely......and to hold on even to the end.


1 Timothy 4:16

Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers.


1 Corinthians 15:2

"By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain."





Thus it seems as if the drawing of the Father is an organic continual one.





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