tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8836001125267727609.post2231175095546119331..comments2023-09-27T05:12:31.333-04:00Comments on Ancient Christian Witness: IS YHWH God the Father or the TrinityJnormhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06749159886390240183noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8836001125267727609.post-20779703832751400452008-06-11T00:32:00.000-04:002008-06-11T00:32:00.000-04:00Adam Pastor,I'm sorry for not posting right away. ...Adam Pastor,<BR/><BR/>I'm sorry for not posting right away. I saw your comment yesturday, or maybe the day before.<BR/><BR/>but anyway, I would like to say greetings. I see you like this topic alot.<BR/><BR/>Well, maybe we could take a bite at this issue bit by bit. Concept by concept.<BR/><BR/>However, I'm going to let it be known from the very beginning, that I'm not gonna change my mind about this issue. Now in saying this, you might be a little upset, and I understand that, but this is an essential christian doctrine. Something I have been challenged on before in the past, and looked at. I have no doubts about this doctrine. And I pray that our dialogue will help you see some connections that you haven't seen before.<BR/><BR/>I'm sorry, but I was just rolling my eyes when you said:<BR/><BR/>Adam pastor said:<BR/>"So irrespective of the Western & Eastern minds; what matters is the mind of Christ!"<BR/><BR/><BR/>It's so anachronistic of you to say such a thing. You are unkwowingly (or maybe knowingly) reading a modern western psuedo-protestant perspective into the text. A 19nth century reading into scripture. <BR/><BR/>You need to understand that Jesus is of the same Being of the Father. The Son Shares the Father's Being.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Once you understand this, then most of what you had to say falls to the ground.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Thanks for posting.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>JNORM888Jnormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06749159886390240183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8836001125267727609.post-52881162183258052952008-06-07T06:22:00.000-04:002008-06-07T06:22:00.000-04:00GreetingsYou answered "It depends on the context."...Greetings<BR/><BR/>You answered <I>"It depends on the context."</I><BR/><BR/>I would say in answer to the question <BR/><B>"IS YHWH God the Father or the Trinity"?</B><BR/><BR/>That there is only one clear answer.<BR/><B>YHWH is GOD the Father,<BR/>the only true GOD.</B><BR/><BR/>(1 Cor 8:4) ... that there is none other God but one.<BR/>(1 Cor 8:6) But <B>to us</B> there is but <B>one God, the Father</B>, ...<BR/><BR/>(John 17:3) And this is life eternal, that they might know <B>thee the only true God</B>, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.<BR/><BR/>The fact is, that neither Jesus nor any of his disciples ever taught <I>this unknown concept of the trinity.</I><BR/><BR/>To the Jews including the Jewish Messiah; there is solely ONE GOD.<BR/>The Jews confirm this monotheism daily (even to this day) in their confession of the <I>Shema, Deut 6.4.</I><BR/><BR/>When the Messiah, Jesus of Nazareth, was asked what was the greatest of the commandments? :-<BR/><BR/>(Mark 12:28-32) ... <B>Which is the first commandment of all?</B> 29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, <BR/><B>Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:</B> 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: <B>this is the first commandment.</B> ...<BR/><BR/>Note the scribe's response:<BR/>32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: <B>for there is one God; and there is none other but he:<BR/><BR/>It should be obvious then;<BR/>that neither Christ nor the scribe are trinitarian!</B><BR/><BR/>So Christ as well as every other Jew of his era, believed in solely ONE GOD, YHWH, the Father;<BR/>who is ONE Being, ONE Person.<BR/><BR/>Christ identifies the ONE GOD as the Father and calls Him,<BR/><B>the only true GOD.</B><BR/>[John 17.3]<BR/><BR/>So irrespective of the Western & Eastern minds; what matters is <B>the mind of Christ!</B><BR/><BR/>And the Messiah solely believed in ONE GOD, the Father; who is his GOD!<BR/><B>YHWH, God the Father, <BR/>is the God and Father <BR/>of our Lord Jesus Christ!!</B><BR/>[Rom 15.6, 2 Cor 11.31, Eph 1.3,17; Col 1.3, 1 Pet 1.3]<BR/><BR/>(John 20:17) Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, <BR/><B>I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.</B><BR/>(Rev 3:12) Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of <B>my God</B>, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of <B>my God</B>, and the name of the city of <B>my God</B>, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from <B>my God</B>: and I will write upon him my new name.<BR/><BR/>Therefore, JNORM888,<BR/>I highly recommend this video:<BR/><A HREF="http://www.jesusishuman.com" REL="nofollow">The Human Jesus</A><BR/><BR/>Take a couple of hours to watch it; and prayerfully it will aid you to reconsider "The Trinity"<BR/><BR/>Yours In Messiah<BR/>Adam PastorAdam Pastorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15340033095309858240noreply@blogger.com