tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8836001125267727609.post3272281227161300748..comments2023-09-27T05:12:31.333-04:00Comments on Ancient Christian Witness: Did the Apostles Do A Lousy Job?Jnormhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06749159886390240183noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8836001125267727609.post-77006493885513330152010-11-26T13:00:42.246-05:002010-11-26T13:00:42.246-05:00Drake Shelton,
You clearly don't understand ...Drake Shelton,<br /><br /><br />You clearly don't understand the issues.Jnormhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06749159886390240183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8836001125267727609.post-22836853361543722442010-11-26T11:36:25.793-05:002010-11-26T11:36:25.793-05:00I think Isaac Taylor did a fantastic job to show h...I think Isaac Taylor did a fantastic job to show how and why the Early Church apostatized in the uniform way they did. The satanic doctrine of angelic virginity so early in the church, which they got from the pagans, i.e. the Buddhists and the Hindus is in my opinion, and yes history is a matter of opinion except those histories in revelation, the intellectual cause of the early church’s errors on<br /><br />1. The moral attributes of God, because inherent in this system is the divine nature’s hostility to the physical and sex.<br />2. This error produces an errant view of human nature<br />3. This error produces a errant view of soteriology<br />4. Mariolatry<br />This emphasis on celibacy gave rise to the veneration of Mary in, "The Always Virgin", and "The Perpetual Virginity of Mary.”<br />5. Soteriology (means and ends)<br />The way human nature is understood in the ancient Buddhist religion ignores the sinful nature of man. Sin is understood as a mere accident to the real problem: namely, the material reality, the natural evil. Therefore, the cure was "mental abstraction, silence, simplicity of diet, and celibacy"[15] In this system there is no need to expiate man's sin. In the Brahmanist religion (Hinduism),<br />"The Rishis, the gods, human beings, beasts, birds, and whatever other creatures there are, mobile or immobile, are all devoted to penances, and whatever success they win is won through penance. Thus it was through penance that the gods acquired their superiority. These (luminaries in the firmament) that have got their shares of felicity are always the results of penance. Without doubt, through penance the very status of godhead may be acquired."[16]<br />Therefore, in Hinduism, to achieve salvation one must mortify their material body through fastings and penances to achieve godhood. Sound familiar to the angelic doctrine of the Patristics and the entire system in toto?<br /><br />6. Marriage<br />7. The Sacraments<br />The doctrine of angelic celibacy affected the sacraments in that the people expected to receive the holy sacrament from holy hands (celibacy implied). The clear connection between the angelic celibacy of the ancient Church and their view of the sacraments comes from the fact that they believe the rites of the church such as celibacy and fasting to be intrinsically holy and efficacious.<br /><br />Seriously, how are you going to tell a “terrestrial seraph” that he needs justification by faith alone due to his total depravity? <br />So no JNorm its not demanded by the protestants that every scribe made an error on every verse in reading and translating it all at the same time. The problem is you guys had axiomatic assumptions that you held in priority over everything else, and then you interpreted the whole Bible through that extra scriptural assumption of angelic virginity. This is why Clarkian Scripturalism is so important.Drake Sheltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05925446446813424725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8836001125267727609.post-22239870981656598192010-11-26T11:35:56.791-05:002010-11-26T11:35:56.791-05:00I think Isaac Taylor did a fantastic job to show h...I think Isaac Taylor did a fantastic job to show how and why the Early Church apostatized in the uniform way they did. The satanic doctrine of angelic virginity so early in the church, which they got from the pagans, i.e. the Buddhists and the Hindus is in my opinion, and yes history is a matter of opinion except those histories in revelation, the intellectual cause of the early church’s errors on<br /><br />1. The moral attributes of God, because inherent in this system is the divine nature’s hostility to the physical and sex.<br />2. This error produces an errant view of human nature<br />3. This error produces a errant view of soteriology<br />4. Mariolatry<br />This emphasis on celibacy gave rise to the veneration of Mary in, "The Always Virgin", and "The Perpetual Virginity of Mary.”<br />5. Soteriology (means and ends)<br />The way human nature is understood in the ancient Buddhist religion ignores the sinful nature of man. Sin is understood as a mere accident to the real problem: namely, the material reality, the natural evil. Therefore, the cure was "mental abstraction, silence, simplicity of diet, and celibacy"[15] In this system there is no need to expiate man's sin. In the Brahmanist religion (Hinduism),<br />"The Rishis, the gods, human beings, beasts, birds, and whatever other creatures there are, mobile or immobile, are all devoted to penances, and whatever success they win is won through penance. Thus it was through penance that the gods acquired their superiority. These (luminaries in the firmament) that have got their shares of felicity are always the results of penance. Without doubt, through penance the very status of godhead may be acquired."[16]<br />Therefore, in Hinduism, to achieve salvation one must mortify their material body through fastings and penances to achieve godhood. Sound familiar to the angelic doctrine of the Patristics and the entire system in toto?<br /><br />6. Marriage<br />7. The Sacraments<br />The doctrine of angelic celibacy affected the sacraments in that the people expected to receive the holy sacrament from holy hands (celibacy implied). The clear connection between the angelic celibacy of the ancient Church and their view of the sacraments comes from the fact that they believe the rites of the church such as celibacy and fasting to be intrinsically holy and efficacious.<br /><br />Seriously, how are you going to tell a “terrestrial seraph” that he needs justification by faith alone due to his total depravity? <br />So no JNorm its not demanded by the protestants that every scribe made an error on every verse in reading and translating it all at the same time. The problem is you guys had axiomatic assumptions that you held in priority over everything else, and then you interpreted the whole Bible through that extra scriptural assumption of angelic virginity. This is why Clarkian Scripturalism is so important.Drake Sheltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05925446446813424725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8836001125267727609.post-18803479143954583272010-11-26T11:32:12.306-05:002010-11-26T11:32:12.306-05:00I think Isaac Taylor did a fantastic job to show h...I think Isaac Taylor did a fantastic job to show how and why the Early Church apostatized in the uniform way they did. The satanic doctrine of angelic virginity so early in the church, which they got from the pagans, i.e. the Buddhists and the Hindus is in my opinion, and yes history is a matter of opinion except those histories in revelation, the intellectual cause of the early church’s errors on<br /><br />1. The moral attributes of God, because inherent in this system is the divine nature’s hostility to the physical and sex.<br />2. This error produces an errant view of human nature<br />3. This error produces a errant view of soteriology<br />4. Mariolatry<br />This emphasis on celibacy gave rise to the veneration of Mary in, "The Always Virgin", and "The Perpetual Virginity of Mary.”<br />5. Soteriology (means and ends)<br />The way human nature is understood in the ancient Buddhist religion ignores the sinful nature of man. Sin is understood as a mere accident to the real problem: namely, the material reality, the natural evil. Therefore, the cure was "mental abstraction, silence, simplicity of diet, and celibacy"[15] In this system there is no need to expiate man's sin. In the Brahmanist religion (Hinduism),<br />"The Rishis, the gods, human beings, beasts, birds, and whatever other creatures there are, mobile or immobile, are all devoted to penances, and whatever success they win is won through penance. Thus it was through penance that the gods acquired their superiority. These (luminaries in the firmament) that have got their shares of felicity are always the results of penance. Without doubt, through penance the very status of godhead may be acquired."[16]<br />Therefore, in Hinduism, to achieve salvation one must mortify their material body through fastings and penances to achieve godhood. Sound familiar to the angelic doctrine of the Patristics and the entire system in toto?<br />6. Marriage<br />7. The Sacraments<br />The doctrine of angelic celibacy affected the sacraments in that the people expected to receive the holy sacrament from holy hands (celibacy implied). The clear connection between the angelic celibacy of the ancient Church and their view of the sacraments comes from the fact that they believe the rites of the church such as celibacy and fasting to be intrinsically holy and efficacious.<br /><br />Seriously, how are you going to tell a “terrestrial seraph” that he needs justification by faith alone due to his total depravity? <br />So no JNorm its not demanded by the protestants that every scribe made an error on every verse in reading and translating it all at the same time. The problem is you guys had axiomatic assumptions that you held in priority over everything else, and then you interpreted the whole Bible through that extra scriptural assumption of angelic virginity. This is why Clarkian Scripturalism is so important.Drake Sheltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05925446446813424725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8836001125267727609.post-17680296339266659602010-06-20T23:18:17.466-04:002010-06-20T23:18:17.466-04:00Unfortunately, the admins of HCR, accepts "ki...Unfortunately, the admins of HCR, accepts "kingneb", Jason Bradfield as if he is a "Christian brother". Bradfield is allowed to put forth his hyperpreterism without any restriction. Anyone who actually opposes him, actually denying that Jason is a "Christian brother" is often rebuked by the admins.Roderick_Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02169535715630771551noreply@blogger.com