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Tuesday, December 15, 2009
Gnosticism
Gnosticism
1st Timothy 6:20-21
"Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to your care. Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge, which some have professed and in so doing have wandered from the faith. Grace be with you."
1st John 4:1-3
"Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world."
1 Timothy 4
"The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons."
The early christians told us who the heretics(those who abandoned the faith and followed deceiving spirits and things tought by demons) were that paul was talking about. Some of them formed gnostic sects.
Some of the early christian gnostics and gnostic groups were:
Simon Magus
Basilides
Valentinus and the Valentinians
"You may have fallen in with some [Gnostics] who are called christians, but who do not admit this. For they venture to blaspheme the God of Abraham....and say there is no resurrection of the dead, and that their souls, when they die, are taken to heaven. Do not imagine that they are Christians." Justin Martyr 160 A.D.
"[The Gnostics] abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not confess the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ.....Those, therefore, who speak against this gift of God, incur death." Ignatuis 105 A.D.
"[The Gnostics] possess no proof of their system, which has but recently been invented by them. Sometimes they rest upon certain numbers; sometimes, on syllables; and still other times, on names." Irenaeus 180
"[The Gnostics] ....are very anxious to shake that belief in the resurrection that was firmly settled before the appearance of our modern Sadducees. As a result, they even deny that the expectation thereof has any relation whatever to the flesh....For they cannot but be apprehensive that, if it is once determined that Christ's flesh was human, a presumption would immediately arise in opposition to them that our flesh must by all means rise again. For it has already risen in Christ." Tertullian 210 A.D.
"The Apostle directs a similar blow against those who said that "the resurrection was already past." Such an opinion do the Valentinians assert" Tertullian 197 A.D.
"On the otherhand, they say that carnal men are instructed in carnal things. Such "carnal men" can be recognized by their works and their simple faith. For they do not have perfect knowledge [gnosis]. The Valentinians say that we who belong to the church are such carnal persons. Therefore, they maintain that good works are necessary for us. Otherwise, it would be impossible for us to be saved. But as to themselves, they hold that they will be entirely saved for a certainty-not by means of their conduct, but because they are spiritual by nature." Irenaeus 180 A.D.
Modern Neognosticism: (I loved the movie)
I only brought this topic up because I was listenning to a podcast about "Revivalism /the Revival movement" that pretty much touched on some of the same stuff.
As seen from the podcast Orthodoxy & Heterodoxy by Fr. Andrew
Play Audio
ICXC NIKA
1st Timothy 6:20-21
"Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to your care. Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge, which some have professed and in so doing have wandered from the faith. Grace be with you."
1st John 4:1-3
"Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world."
1 Timothy 4
"The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons."
The early christians told us who the heretics(those who abandoned the faith and followed deceiving spirits and things tought by demons) were that paul was talking about. Some of them formed gnostic sects.
Some of the early christian gnostics and gnostic groups were:
Simon Magus
Basilides
Valentinus and the Valentinians
"You may have fallen in with some [Gnostics] who are called christians, but who do not admit this. For they venture to blaspheme the God of Abraham....and say there is no resurrection of the dead, and that their souls, when they die, are taken to heaven. Do not imagine that they are Christians." Justin Martyr 160 A.D.
"[The Gnostics] abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not confess the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ.....Those, therefore, who speak against this gift of God, incur death." Ignatuis 105 A.D.
"[The Gnostics] possess no proof of their system, which has but recently been invented by them. Sometimes they rest upon certain numbers; sometimes, on syllables; and still other times, on names." Irenaeus 180
"[The Gnostics] ....are very anxious to shake that belief in the resurrection that was firmly settled before the appearance of our modern Sadducees. As a result, they even deny that the expectation thereof has any relation whatever to the flesh....For they cannot but be apprehensive that, if it is once determined that Christ's flesh was human, a presumption would immediately arise in opposition to them that our flesh must by all means rise again. For it has already risen in Christ." Tertullian 210 A.D.
"The Apostle directs a similar blow against those who said that "the resurrection was already past." Such an opinion do the Valentinians assert" Tertullian 197 A.D.
"On the otherhand, they say that carnal men are instructed in carnal things. Such "carnal men" can be recognized by their works and their simple faith. For they do not have perfect knowledge [gnosis]. The Valentinians say that we who belong to the church are such carnal persons. Therefore, they maintain that good works are necessary for us. Otherwise, it would be impossible for us to be saved. But as to themselves, they hold that they will be entirely saved for a certainty-not by means of their conduct, but because they are spiritual by nature." Irenaeus 180 A.D.
Modern Neognosticism: (I loved the movie)
I only brought this topic up because I was listenning to a podcast about "Revivalism /the Revival movement" that pretty much touched on some of the same stuff.
As seen from the podcast Orthodoxy & Heterodoxy by Fr. Andrew
Play Audio
ICXC NIKA
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1 comments:
Great post. "I'll Fly Away" -- I always thought that song had disturbing lyrics. Definitely Gnostic.